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		<title>Mobile content fraud &#8211; part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just called AT&#38;T about these charges.  He refunded the $10.67 I was charged, and cancelled the subscription. He told me that the charge was added by Verisign &#8211; confirming my googled knowledge that Jamster is at least partially owned by Verisign.  So&#8230; yet another reason to dislike Verisign. He also added a purchase control [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just called AT&amp;T about these charges.  He refunded the $10.67 I was charged, and cancelled the subscription.</p>
<p>He told me that the charge was added by Verisign &#8211; confirming my googled knowledge that Jamster is at least partially owned by Verisign.  So&#8230; yet another reason to dislike Verisign.</p>
<p>He also added a purchase control thingy to AT&amp;T&#8217;s MediaNET to prevent anyone from charging my phone line again without my explicit approval.</p>
<p>I asked why that wasn&#8217;t the default &#8211; they should automatically verify that you want these kinds of things.  His answer?  &#8220;By law we have to allow people to buy things on their phone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Guess what?  <em>Verification does not in any way negate the ability to buy things on one&#8217;s phone.</em> It was an idiotic excuse, but I didn&#8217;t want to yell at him.  After all, there wasn&#8217;t anything this particular customer service agent could do about it.</p>
<p>Let me be clear, though: enabling verification by default would resolve the most glaring problems with the system, and if they do that I&#8217;ll be satisfied.</p>
<p>So anyway I asked who I can talk to about getting AT&amp;T to stop this sort of thing from happening on a scale larger than &#8220;we&#8217;ll refund things for whoever happens to notice and complain&#8221;.  At first he said &#8220;we have no department for that&#8221;, but after I pressed him on the issue (there must be <em>someone</em> I could talk to) he directed me to the &#8220;Contact Us&#8221; section of AT&amp;T Wireless&#8217; website.</p>
<p>So off I go:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.orderingdisorder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/attfraud.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-407" title="attfraud" src="http://www.orderingdisorder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/attfraud.png" alt="attfraud" width="483" height="463" /></a>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; HULK SMASH THINGS.</p>
<p>Looks like my next course of action is to track down some fraud department number on my own, or failing that, find a VP&#8217;s (or CEO&#8217;s) phone number and leave a message for them.</p>
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		<title>Mobile content company cell phone scams</title>
		<link>http://www.orderingdisorder.com/2010/01/17/mobile-content-company-cell-phone-scams/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gather round, it&#8217;s story time! Back in August 2008 I upgraded my AT&#38;T plan from a single line to a five-line family plan.  On my second bill (dated Oct 5, 2008), one of the lines showed a charge like this: &#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; $10.66 I called up my sister-in-law and asked her whether she had solicited [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gather round, it&#8217;s story time!</p>
<p>Back in August 2008 I upgraded my AT&amp;T plan from a single line to a five-line family plan.  On my second bill (dated Oct 5, 2008), one of the lines showed a charge like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; $10.66</p></blockquote>
<p>I called up my sister-in-law and asked her whether she had solicited the purchase.  I didn&#8217;t care if she did, but if she had I wanted her to pay for it.  Turns out she hadn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So, I called up AT&amp;T and got them to reverse the charge.  They said they would, and that they had unsubscribed the line from that merchant&#8217;s service.</p>
<p>Sounds simple, right?  Well, look at the next bill, dated Nov 5, 2008:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; -$10.66 (refund)</p>
<p>&#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; $10.66</p>
<p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; $10.66</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, this isn&#8217;t looking good.  They obviously didn&#8217;t cancel the subscription the first month, because it was charged again, and now there&#8217;s a *second* subscription!  What&#8217;s worse, the contact phone number for Mblox and OpenMarket are exactly the same, so it&#8217;s the same company.</p>
<p>So I called AT&amp;T again, and they told me they&#8217;d refund it and it&#8217;d all be taken care of.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the next bill, dated Dec 5, 2008:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; -$10.66 (refund)</p>
<p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; -$10.66 (refund)</p>
<p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; $10.66</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm.  Two refunds for Thumbplay and now two charges for Thumbplay.  Unfortunately at the time I didn&#8217;t realize that I never got the refund for the second Flycell charge.</p>
<p>Well, it appeared to have sorted itself out, and sure enough the Jan 5, 2009 bill had no charges from either company.</p>
<p>&#8230; and now we get to Jan 5, 2010, this time on <em>my</em> line:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;XXL: Mobile content&#8221;&#8230; Jamster&#8230; $10.67</p></blockquote>
<p>$#@*&amp;$(*@#%$</p>
<p>Note that neither of us ever solicited these subscriptions, neither of us ever gave out our numbers to those &#8220;get a free ringtone&#8221; websites, and neither of us have any affiliation with any of these companies in any way.</p>
<p>It is, quite simply, <em>blatant theft</em>.  Jamster and friends throw charges at people&#8217;s lines (using their established business relationship with various mobile carriers) and just hope they won&#8217;t notice.  Some quick googling (&#8220;jamster scam&#8221; and &#8220;mblox scam&#8221; both turn up some dirt) shows that this is not uncommon.  Yes, a lot of the people who fall victim to this scam have signed up for Jamster&#8217;s &#8220;free&#8221; ringtones; but a lot of them have not, and that&#8217;s where I fall.</p>
<p>The problem here is that AT&amp;T does <em>absolutely no verification</em> to see whether the customer actually <em>did</em> subscribe to these things &#8211; for some unfathomable reason, they just <em>trust </em>Jamster.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m going to call AT&amp;T tomorrow morning and get them to rectify the situation yet again.  I&#8217;m also going to chase this up the org chart as high as I can to get something done about it.</p>
<p>So, have any of you experienced anything similar?</p>
<p><em>Edit: <a href="http://www.orderingdisorder.com/2010/01/18/mobile-content-part-2/" target="_blank">here&#8217;s part two</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>Stop that thief!</title>
		<link>http://www.orderingdisorder.com/2009/09/04/stop-that-thief/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is not amusing when people steal my drinks from the fridge. That is all. Share on Facebook var button = document.getElementById('facebook_share_link_123') &#124;&#124; document.getElementById('facebook_share_icon_123') &#124;&#124; document.getElementById('facebook_share_both_123') &#124;&#124; document.getElementById('facebook_share_button_123'); if (button) { button.onclick = function(e) { var url = this.href.replace(/share\.php/, 'sharer.php'); window.open(url,'sharer','toolbar=0,status=0,width=626,height=436'); return false; } if (button.id === 'facebook_share_button_123') { button.onmouseover = function(){ this.style.color='#fff'; this.style.borderColor = [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is <strong><em>not</em></strong> amusing when people steal my drinks from the fridge.</p>
<p>That is all.</p>
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