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		<title>AT&amp;T isn&#8217;t even trying&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A while back I posted a picture of the six (!) identical postcards I received from AT&#38;T on the same day.  That proved AT&#38;T doesn&#8217;t filter their snail-mail to remove unnecessary mailings.  Here&#8217;s proof that they&#8217;re not filtering their e-mail advertising either: There are three sections highlighted in red there. First, they claim, &#8220;Now it&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back I posted a picture of <a href="http://www.orderingdisorder.com/2010/04/21/seriously-att/" target="_blank">the six (!) identical postcards</a> I received from AT&amp;T on the same day.  That proved AT&amp;T doesn&#8217;t filter their snail-mail to remove unnecessary mailings.  Here&#8217;s proof that they&#8217;re not filtering their e-mail advertising either:</p>
<div class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 590px"><a href="http://media.orderingdisorder.com/2010/07/att_wtf.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://media.orderingdisorder.com/2010/07/att_wtf.jpg" alt="" width="580" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Lovely AT&amp;T advertising e-mail</p></div>
<p style="text-align: left;">There are three sections highlighted in red there.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">First, they claim, &#8220;Now it&#8217;s time to upgrade your phone&#8221;.  That implies they&#8217;re checking who&#8217;s eligible for upgrades&#8230; we&#8217;ll see that they&#8217;re not.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Second, they list the &#8220;number(s)&#8221; that they claim are eligible for an upgrade.  They list all five lines on the account.  Only one of those lines is <em>actually</em> eligible for an upgrade; the rest of us have upgraded within the last six months and are not eligible for an upgrade for another year at a minimum.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Third, at the bottom they say &#8220;Ask about offers for other lines on this account&#8221;.  Five is the maximum.  I couldn&#8217;t add another line if I wanted to.  They do this all the time.  I regularly get e-mails from AT&amp;T telling me I can add another line.  When I log on to my account on their website, I get an &#8220;Add another line&#8221; link, even though I can&#8217;t actually add another line.  Next time I get an e-mail telling me to add another line, I should call and demand they let me do so, and threaten to sue them for false advertising if they refuse.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Is it really too much to ask that their advertising not feel rubber-stamped?</p>
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		<title>Seriously, AT&amp;T?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 02:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just got these in the mail today from AT&#38;T (click to enlarge): (I scanned them so you wouldn&#8217;t have to put up with a picture of a wooden table.) Yes, there are six of them, and yes, they&#8217;re all identical.  The problems I see with the situation: They&#8217;re not de-duplicating their outgoing notification mailings, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got these in the mail today from AT&amp;T (click to enlarge):</p>
<p><a href="http://media.orderingdisorder.com/2010/04/att_email_notice.jpg"><img class="alignnone" style="border: 1px solid black;" src="http://media.orderingdisorder.com/2010/04/att_email_notice.jpg" alt="Image" width="598" height="823" /></a></p>
<p>(I scanned them so you wouldn&#8217;t have to put up with a picture of a wooden table.)</p>
<p>Yes, there are six of them, and yes, they&#8217;re all identical.  The problems I see with the situation:</p>
<ul>
<li>They&#8217;re not de-duplicating their outgoing notification mailings, wasting both paper and postage.</li>
<li>They updated my e-mail address in response to a support ticket I filed (their web interface won&#8217;t let you use e-mail addresses containing a &#8216;+&#8217; character), so obviously I knew about it.  Why send me a postcard at all?</li>
<li>They have other options for notifying me, notably <em>via text message</em> which would be <em>free</em> and <em>instant</em>.  I guess that&#8217;s too easy.</li>
<li>I didn&#8217;t update my e-mail address until after I updated my account&#8217;s billing address to my house, but they sent the postcards (all six of them) to my <em>previous </em>mailing address.</li>
</ul>
<p>I have five lines on my account, so had they sent me five postcards it would have made more sense (relatively speaking), but six?  To the <em>old </em>address?</p>
<p>Sometimes, I&#8217;m not too sure about AT&amp;T&#8217;s collective sanity.</p>
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		<title>Mobile content fraud &#8211; part 2</title>
		<link>http://www.orderingdisorder.com/2010/01/18/mobile-content-part-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 23:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just called AT&#38;T about these charges.  He refunded the $10.67 I was charged, and cancelled the subscription. He told me that the charge was added by Verisign &#8211; confirming my googled knowledge that Jamster is at least partially owned by Verisign.  So&#8230; yet another reason to dislike Verisign. He also added a purchase control [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just called AT&amp;T about these charges.  He refunded the $10.67 I was charged, and cancelled the subscription.</p>
<p>He told me that the charge was added by Verisign &#8211; confirming my googled knowledge that Jamster is at least partially owned by Verisign.  So&#8230; yet another reason to dislike Verisign.</p>
<p>He also added a purchase control thingy to AT&amp;T&#8217;s MediaNET to prevent anyone from charging my phone line again without my explicit approval.</p>
<p>I asked why that wasn&#8217;t the default &#8211; they should automatically verify that you want these kinds of things.  His answer?  &#8220;By law we have to allow people to buy things on their phone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Guess what?  <em>Verification does not in any way negate the ability to buy things on one&#8217;s phone.</em> It was an idiotic excuse, but I didn&#8217;t want to yell at him.  After all, there wasn&#8217;t anything this particular customer service agent could do about it.</p>
<p>Let me be clear, though: enabling verification by default would resolve the most glaring problems with the system, and if they do that I&#8217;ll be satisfied.</p>
<p>So anyway I asked who I can talk to about getting AT&amp;T to stop this sort of thing from happening on a scale larger than &#8220;we&#8217;ll refund things for whoever happens to notice and complain&#8221;.  At first he said &#8220;we have no department for that&#8221;, but after I pressed him on the issue (there must be <em>someone</em> I could talk to) he directed me to the &#8220;Contact Us&#8221; section of AT&amp;T Wireless&#8217; website.</p>
<p>So off I go:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.orderingdisorder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/attfraud.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-407" title="attfraud" src="http://www.orderingdisorder.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/attfraud.png" alt="attfraud" width="483" height="463" /></a>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; HULK SMASH THINGS.</p>
<p>Looks like my next course of action is to track down some fraud department number on my own, or failing that, find a VP&#8217;s (or CEO&#8217;s) phone number and leave a message for them.</p>
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		<title>Mobile content company cell phone scams</title>
		<link>http://www.orderingdisorder.com/2010/01/17/mobile-content-company-cell-phone-scams/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gather round, it&#8217;s story time! Back in August 2008 I upgraded my AT&#38;T plan from a single line to a five-line family plan.  On my second bill (dated Oct 5, 2008), one of the lines showed a charge like this: &#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; $10.66 I called up my sister-in-law and asked her whether she had solicited [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gather round, it&#8217;s story time!</p>
<p>Back in August 2008 I upgraded my AT&amp;T plan from a single line to a five-line family plan.  On my second bill (dated Oct 5, 2008), one of the lines showed a charge like this:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; $10.66</p></blockquote>
<p>I called up my sister-in-law and asked her whether she had solicited the purchase.  I didn&#8217;t care if she did, but if she had I wanted her to pay for it.  Turns out she hadn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So, I called up AT&amp;T and got them to reverse the charge.  They said they would, and that they had unsubscribed the line from that merchant&#8217;s service.</p>
<p>Sounds simple, right?  Well, look at the next bill, dated Nov 5, 2008:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; -$10.66 (refund)</p>
<p>&#8220;Flycell&#8221;&#8230; Mblox&#8230; $10.66</p>
<p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; $10.66</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, this isn&#8217;t looking good.  They obviously didn&#8217;t cancel the subscription the first month, because it was charged again, and now there&#8217;s a *second* subscription!  What&#8217;s worse, the contact phone number for Mblox and OpenMarket are exactly the same, so it&#8217;s the same company.</p>
<p>So I called AT&amp;T again, and they told me they&#8217;d refund it and it&#8217;d all be taken care of.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the next bill, dated Dec 5, 2008:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; -$10.66 (refund)</p>
<p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; -$10.66 (refund)</p>
<p>&#8220;Thumbplay&#8221;&#8230; OpenMarket&#8230; $10.66</p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm.  Two refunds for Thumbplay and now two charges for Thumbplay.  Unfortunately at the time I didn&#8217;t realize that I never got the refund for the second Flycell charge.</p>
<p>Well, it appeared to have sorted itself out, and sure enough the Jan 5, 2009 bill had no charges from either company.</p>
<p>&#8230; and now we get to Jan 5, 2010, this time on <em>my</em> line:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;XXL: Mobile content&#8221;&#8230; Jamster&#8230; $10.67</p></blockquote>
<p>$#@*&amp;$(*@#%$</p>
<p>Note that neither of us ever solicited these subscriptions, neither of us ever gave out our numbers to those &#8220;get a free ringtone&#8221; websites, and neither of us have any affiliation with any of these companies in any way.</p>
<p>It is, quite simply, <em>blatant theft</em>.  Jamster and friends throw charges at people&#8217;s lines (using their established business relationship with various mobile carriers) and just hope they won&#8217;t notice.  Some quick googling (&#8220;jamster scam&#8221; and &#8220;mblox scam&#8221; both turn up some dirt) shows that this is not uncommon.  Yes, a lot of the people who fall victim to this scam have signed up for Jamster&#8217;s &#8220;free&#8221; ringtones; but a lot of them have not, and that&#8217;s where I fall.</p>
<p>The problem here is that AT&amp;T does <em>absolutely no verification</em> to see whether the customer actually <em>did</em> subscribe to these things &#8211; for some unfathomable reason, they just <em>trust </em>Jamster.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m going to call AT&amp;T tomorrow morning and get them to rectify the situation yet again.  I&#8217;m also going to chase this up the org chart as high as I can to get something done about it.</p>
<p>So, have any of you experienced anything similar?</p>
<p><em>Edit: <a href="http://www.orderingdisorder.com/2010/01/18/mobile-content-part-2/" target="_blank">here&#8217;s part two</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>An Open Letter to AT&amp;T</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 21:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear AT&#38;T, I am writing to let you know that your marketing department needs to be kicked in the head.   You see, I just got this letter in the mail from you: Dear Preferred Customer, Because we value you as a customer, I have a great deal for you.  It starts with the opportunity to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear AT&amp;T,</p>
<p>I am writing to let you know that your marketing department needs to be kicked in the head.   You see, I just got this letter in the mail from you:</p>
<blockquote><p>Dear Preferred Customer,</p>
<p>Because we value you as a customer, I have a great deal for you.  It starts with the opportunity to get a FREE 3G phone when you activate an additional line of service!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right, you&#8217;re Pre-Approved to receive a FREE phone when you activate an additional line of service with a new two-year agreement.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more, you&#8217;ll continue to receive special equipment offers, plus a <strong>monthly corporate service discount of up to 8%</strong> on qualified monthly charges.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are a few problems with this &#8220;offer&#8221;, all of which prove that you do not in fact value me as a customer.</p>
<p>First: This was printed <em>with a computer</em>.  Would it really have been too difficult to put my name instead of &#8220;Preferred Customer&#8221;?  It&#8217;s printed one inch higher, where the address goes, so clearly you know who this particular piece of paper would get sent to.</p>
<p>Second: I could not add a sixth line to my account even if I wanted to, because <em>five lines is the maximum</em>.</p>
<p>Third: My account currently has a <strong>12</strong>% monthly discount through my employer.  Am I supposed to feel <em>good</em> that you&#8217;re offering me a <em>smaller</em> discount?</p>
<p>Fourth: As a result of the second and third points, I must conclude that &#8220;Pre-Approved&#8221; is a complete fabrication.  If there <em>is</em> a pre-approval process, it&#8217;s being run by a small group of blind monkeys.</p>
<p>So AT&amp;T, you know that database query that extracts a list of customers for the mailing?  Yeah, pull that out.  I&#8217;m going to tell you how to fix your problems right now.</p>
<p>See how it starts with SELECT, then lists a bunch of fields, then it says FROM and a table name, and then there&#8217;s a WHERE clause?</p>
<p>Add two more things to that WHERE clause:</p>
<blockquote><p>WHERE [...] AND discount &lt; 0.08 AND num_lines &lt; 5</p></blockquote>
<p>You see, this way, you&#8217;ll filter out the people who couldn&#8217;t use your offer even if they wanted to (and you won&#8217;t insult them by offering them a discount lower than their current discount).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a five second modification.  Please do it.  You&#8217;ll save trees not printing so many offers, and you&#8217;ll save money on paper and ink and postage.</p>
<p>Which brings up one last problem with this letter:</p>
<p>Fifth: You&#8217;re mailing me a paper letter.  I had thought I asked for everything electronically; it turns out that paper mailings are specifically opt-out.  Well, now I&#8217;ve opted out.</p>
<p>I probably would not have done that if you had bothered filtering your mailings so you would actually be sending them to people who might care.</p>
<p>Thanks for your attention.</p>
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